Posts tagged "atheist"

Not fond of the “Belief-o-matic” name, but whatever.

I’d be interested to see what usgroovykids gets. And you, too.

I’m somehow either Seventh Day Adventist (100%? How?) or Orthodox Quaker. Maybe Eastern Orthodox. I’m not sure I agree with that, although I kinda like the Orthodox Quaker designation. I thought I’d be one of these guys.


“The reason why science and religion are actually incompatible is that, in the real world, they reach incompatible conclusions. It’s worth noting that this incompatibility is perfectly evident to any fair-minded person who cares to look. Different religions make very different claims, but they typically end up saying things like “God made the universe in six days” or “Jesus died and was resurrected” or “Moses parted the red sea” or “dead souls are reincarnated in accordance with their karmic burden.” And science says: none of that is true. So there you go, incompatibility.” — Sean Carroll

The reason why this argument is refutable is because Sean Carroll is a complete blowhard. Looking at myth used to explain the unexplainable to the simple does not prove your point. Claiming that billions of people throughout history are completely and irrefutably wrong with no real relation to your argument does not help your argument.

It should be perfectly clear to any non-dogmatic, truly open-minded individual who recognizes what seems obvious to many — that there is a body (physical) and there is a soul (spiritual) — that religion is concerned with the soul while science is concerned with the body.

Religion and faith are concerned with the unseen and unseeable. Science is concerned with what it can see and classify. To stretch either into the other realm in a way to eradicate the other is irresponsible and ignorant.

And yes, religion does concern itself with some aspects of the body and what is seen, obviously (how to live and what to do). Just as science does concern itself with some aspects of what would be considered the spirit, the unseen. (Psychology?) They are not in any way, though, mutually exclusive.

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“I’m very angry always inside me whenever I hear someone make claims for God. If there is a God it seems to me so obvious and so absolutely clear that if he does exist he is capricious and mean and willful… When a child has bone cancer how can you say there is a loving God I know it’s a cliche, but I’ve never hear a satisfactory answer. Yes there may be a creator, though I don’t think it at all likely, but to say that he’s loving, to say that he’s benevolent, to say that he cares for us, or to say that having made us, something we never asked of him, that we should spend our time on our knees in front of him, well it’s outrageous.” — Stephen Fry

I think Stephen’s problem is that he is either forgetting or not willing to accept the added concepts that this benevolent God wants relationship with his creation, not as automatons but as freely thinking and responding intelligent beings as he created us. This requires free will, which allows us to freely reject.

And this freedom to reject a good and loving God creates a space for indifference, hate, and evil. As scientists know with “black matter”, there is no true vacuum, right? So where there is not good there must be something. And where there is not this good and loving God, there must be the antithesis.

But perhaps that’s the answer that is never satisfactory. Perhaps he wants this love to be so completely overpowering that we can only respond in the one way we are supposed to, thus rendering our choices nonexistent.

(And now I must wrestle with the concept that I’m calling all Atheists indifferent and evil, which I know to be quite inaccurate.)

By the way, USG? Did you copy and paste that quote or type it yourself? There are several grammatical errors. Whoever typed it should have really reread what they did. Of course, I’m no better with my own writing.

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Saw this on a cousin’s Facebook page. I am a Christian myself (and probably once thought like this graphic states), but I would think a mature Christian would know that any sensible Atheist goes deeper and is more thoughtful than that. I’m sure chaplinnn and usgroovykids would love to respond to this graphic in their own loving ways.

Saw this on a cousin’s Facebook page. I am a Christian myself (and probably once thought like this graphic states), but I would think a mature Christian would know that any sensible Atheist goes deeper and is more thoughtful than that. I’m sure chaplinnn and usgroovykids would love to respond to this graphic in their own loving ways.

Thank God. And Chris Harper. And Pastor Deacon Fred Smith. And Americhrist, Ltd.

(In response to earlier.)

The funny thing is that, now that I think about it, I think I recall seeing something about this site last year sometime. And yet I got duped.

**WARNING: Do not read the above link if you only have a few brain cells left.**

The utter and absolute idiocy of some people who claim to follow Jesus Christ.

Seriously, have you never heard of the water cycle? Did you not take science throughout grade school and into high school? Are you complete and utter dolts?

It’s people like these that make me ashamed to use the label “Christian.”

On the other hand, these guys have been mentioned as an antidote.

EDIT: I got duped. Good thing literallyunbelievable only covers the Onion.

An Atheist was seated next to a little girl on an airplane and he turned to her and said, “Do you want to talk? Flights go quicker if you strike up a conversation with your fellow passenger.”

The little girl, who had just started to read her book, replied to the total stranger, “What would you want to talk about?”

"Oh, I don’t know," said the Atheist. " How about why there is no God, or no Heaven or Hell, or no life after death?" as he smiled smugly.

"OK," she said. "Those could be interesting topics but let me ask you a question first. A horse, a cow, and a deer all eat the same stuff - grass. Yet a deer excretes little pellets, while a cow turns out a flat patty, but a horse produces clumps. Why do you suppose that is?"

The Atheist, visibly surprised by the little girl’s intelligence, thinks about it and says, “Hmmm, I have no idea.”

To which the little girl replies, “Do you really feel qualified to discuss why there is no God, or no Heaven or Hell, or no life after death, when you don’t know shit?”


vruz: because as everybody knows in the decalogue god gave to moses it read:  “Thou shalt not kill, unless it’s atheists we’re talking about”.

This comment, thankfully near the top of the comments, says it very poorly at first (grammatically), but it speaks truth: These people aren’t reading Jesus Christ at all.

(via inothernews)




Authors Phil Zuckerman and Dan Cady wrote:

Jesus unambiguously preached mercy and forgiveness. These are supposed to be cardinal virtues of the Christian faith. And yet Evangelicals are the most supportive of the death penalty, draconian sentencing, punitive punishment over rehabilitation, and the governmental use of torture.

Jesus exhorted humans to be loving, peaceful, and non-violent. And yet Evangelicals are the group of Americans most supportive of easy-access weaponry, little-to-no regulation of handgun and semi-automatic gun ownership, not to mention the violent military invasion of various countries around the world.

Jesus was very clear that the pursuit of wealth was inimical to the Kingdom of God, that the rich are to be condemned, and that to be a follower of Him means to give one’s money to the poor. And yet Evangelicals are the most supportive of corporate greed and capitalistic excess, and they are the most opposed to institutional help for the nation’s poor - especially poor children.

They added:

They hate anything that smacks of ‘socialism’, even though that is essentially what their Savior preached. They despise food stamp programs, subsidies for schools, hospitals, job training - anything that might dare to help out those in need. Even though helping out those in need was exactly what Jesus urged humans to do. In short, Evangelicals are that segment of America which is the most pro-militaristic, pro-gun, and pro-corporate, while simultaneously claiming to be most ardent lovers of the of the Prince of Peace.

They concluded:

Of course, conservative Americans have every right to support corporate greed, militarism, gun possession, and the death penalty, and to oppose welfare, food stamps, health care for those in need, etc. - it is just strange and contradictory when they claim these positions as somehow ‘Christian’. They aren’t.

I think this every day…

I wonder if Jesus doing a facepalm looks like Paul Revere doing a facepalm.

Are they saying “the majority of evangelical Christians” or are they saying “evangelical Christians as a percentage of those who….”? Aah, more fodder for the anti-Christian.

I do find it quite disheartening that so many Christians really do believe this way.

I would also argue that Jesus is more of a Communist than a Socialist. At least the early church as presented in Acts 2 seems to be.

Meanwhile, I think I should find a copy of Christian Atheist from the library and see what it’s talking about.

I know that evolution would never rule out a God, that's why I'm technically an Agnostic Atheist (meaning that Agnostic atheists are atheistic because they do not have belief in the existence of any deity, and agnostic because they do not claim to know that a deity does not exist)

No one can ever know if a God exists or not, however "I" personally do not believe in one, however that doesn't stop one from existing now does it?

And to your second question(s), you say how does that evolve from all of that right?, I could argue that how did we get to doing all of those things from creationism.

And I always thought that evolution doesn't allow the Christian God, because the concept of Christianity is that God created Adam and Eve and they sinned, but doesn't evolution goes against that.

And I also think that if there was a God, who are we as humans to try to interpret him/her.
snyderly snyderly Said:

Evolutionary scientists like to think it doesn’t allow for a Creator God. Just like literal Creationists don’t like to allow for evolutionary creation or development of species. There’s still that whole middle ground.

"…who are we as humans to try to interpret him/her". How very Biblical of you. I think that’s in Proverbs or Isaiah somewhere.